Aug 10, 2008, 01:33 PM // 13:33
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North of the wall
Profession: Me/
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Caretaker's Charge question
Disclaimer: As always, I am still not a hardcore gvg player so please help me understand this instead of flaming.
So I love watching GvG and the RT meta is to run [Caretaker's Charge] right? I'm looking at this and I can understand why it is a desired elite, since its a free heal/damage spell, but I have a question. Is it really worth the elite slot? The damage doesn't seem like a whole bunch and the healing is even less. The only great thing about it is its free. Sort of like a life stealing spell except this doesn't ignore armor.
My question is, why don't they bring something else? I understand Rt elites are limited for PvP let alone Gvg. Since its a flag runner an elite item spell won't do, and spirits are pretty much meh for an elite skill, but why not spells like [Spirit Light Weapon] since most of the time [Life] or [Recuperation] are up, whether its from your team or the others. [Weapon of Remedy] and [Xinrae's Weapon] (after buff) looks good as well. Perhaps [Wielder's Zeal] for easier [Weapon of Warding]/[Weapon of Shadow] but most likely not.
So can anyone explain to me why [Caretaker's Charge] Is the Elite of choice? Is it purely because its free? Or a jack of all trades sort of skill? Are we never going to see any other rt elites out there?
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Aug 10, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Spike target in...3...2...1...
That sort of thing
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Aug 10, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: Variable Speed Farmers[VsF]
Profession: Mo/
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^said the reason
so, WoR and Xinrae's wep are also excellent choices, I'd take xinrae's over caretaker's on a runner.
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Aug 10, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USA
Guild: Vent Rage[vR]
Profession: Mo/
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on split u have more dmg which is nice and free, also at stand its good for spikes. and other wise other rit elites aren't really needed like WoR and xinraes wep are not so great heals that wow+wb or smoothing memories do for a more efficient outcome.
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Aug 10, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21
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#5
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Amazon Basin [AB]
Profession: Mo/Me
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WoR was kinda nice back when people split, but since that's dead, I can't see why you would skip caretakers.
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Aug 10, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Droknars Forge
Guild: No Goats No Glory
Profession: Me/
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u need the dmg/heal for split and for chasing out gankers from base.
recuperation is only used as flagstand btw
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Aug 10, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: England, UK
Guild: We Are The One And Only [rR]
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We ran destructive was glaive yesterday for the lulz, actually worked kinda well but would prolly suck at higher levels.
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Aug 11, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North of the wall
Profession: Me/
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Ah I see now. Ty everyone
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Aug 11, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2008
Guild: We Rift Two One U Resign Two [One]
Profession: N/E
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the nice part about caretaker's is a few things. A. its kinda spammable at the stand and makes up for lack of old skills such as a rage, and sometimes people bring channeled strike on the runners too for some extra 3 2 1 Dmg. But B. (what i believe is the best use for it), ur at ur base. A warrior with no self heal is u know killing ur archers one by one, maybe pissing u off when u run a flag or something. Now u sit there and heal the NPC, but is that really all? i mean u sit there the guy hits and when he cant kill hes gunna give up.. now with caretakers u throw a heal on the archer and bam u keep spamming it ont he crippled war... gets pro skills. It's also pretty cool on splits for a bit of extra dmg on a 3 man split or so. But mostly its for some extra 3-2-1, free energy skill, and to kill some stuff on splits.
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Aug 11, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: a van down by the river
Guild: iBench
Profession: P/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by legless477
on split u have more dmg which is nice and free, also at stand its good for spikes. and other wise other rit elites aren't really needed like WoR and xinraes wep are not so great heals that wow+wb or smoothing memories do for a more efficient outcome.
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Any good ranger will eat the shit out of a Caretaker's rit. WoR has a much better chance of survival. However I run Xinrea's.
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Aug 12, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Napa, CA
Guild: Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]
Profession: R/N
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The reason people originally brought it if I remember right is because of bringing the 25e Recuperation on bars, it was nice to have a free damage skill, as well as Soothing Memories which was only technically 2e.
It's nice to have a free damage dealing skill, though I never thought it was that great. There's really no other amazing rit elites that would be good on a runner bar though, besides WoR. Maybe something else with the new buffs might work though.
Also Caretaker's synergizes decently with flag runners because holding the flag counts as holding an item.
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Aug 12, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy
Guild: I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3
Profession: R/
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The only reason people run Caretaker's is because all the alternatives suck hardcore monkey balls.
apart from WoR and the new buffed Xinrae's.
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Aug 12, 2008, 08:54 AM // 08:54
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#13
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I like yumy food!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Where I can eat yumy food
Guild: Dead Alley [dR]
Profession: Mo/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I Angra I
There's really no other amazing rit elites that would be good on a runner bar though, besides WoR.
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Shadow walk-destructive was glaive! And also grasping was yourmom.
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Aug 12, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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I know our runner prefers CC over WoR. BUT ARKANTOS PREFERS XINRAE, WHICH MIGHT JUSTIFY IT.
meh.
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Aug 18, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North of the wall
Profession: Me/
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Well now I am seeing rits carrying hidden caltrops! Which is interesting but an unconditional 5 energy 10 second 12 recharge snare? Seems OP but O well.
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Aug 18, 2008, 02:38 PM // 14:38
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über těk-nĭsh'ən
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada
Profession: R/
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hidden caltrops is seriously OP.
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Aug 18, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53
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#17
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
hidden caltrops is seriously OP.
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12charlolzzz
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Aug 18, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25
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#18
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Amazon Basin [AB]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Shadow walk-destructive was glaive!
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Too bad that doesn't work, you drop the item from your start point.
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Aug 20, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: canada
Profession: W/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
Too bad that doesn't work, you drop the item from your start point.
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unless you cast it AFTER you teleport...
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Sep 12, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29
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#20
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: WTFPRIVACYDUDE
Guild: Endangered Feces [DoDo]
Profession: W/Mo
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people run OP hidden caltrops now too
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